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axa or bxa for g0602?
January 9, 2012
11:53 AM
rdfoster
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I've been thinking about getting a bxa quick change tool holder. I have a axa qcth now. Will the larger size help with rigidity or create other problems?
Bob

January 9, 2012
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Bob, I have the axa tool post on my G0602 lathe and to use some tools I had to machine off the bottom of some of the tool holders so I could get them on center. I think the bxa your looking at will maybe too large/ tall and you will need to do that to all the holders but I don't really know.

I've heard that if you modify the swivel base that has only two bolts to a four bolt set up that it's supposed to make it more rigid. I haven't done that  but I thought I'd pass that info on to you. It would be a less expensive try at least.

January 9, 2012
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Norman, THanks for the reply. I wondered if it would cause other problems. Sorry to hear about your DRO. What did the PROs say when You called?

January 9, 2012
6:12 PM
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I sent the dro read out head back to them they said they will either fix it or replace it. I guess I'm the first to have a problem with the EL-400 they haven't had one fail until now, I get to be the first.Frown

I sent them an email last night and told them I was going to call about it, they called me instead. So it's on it's way back to Ca.

 

Update. They got it fix and back in the mail to me the same day they got it.Turns out the power supply inside the reader head quit. I haven't found out from them just what in the power supply went bad or broke. The only cost was to ship the reader head to them. So I'm back in business. Total time down 10 days.

January 12, 2012
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AXA goes up to 0.5" tooling. That's plenty big enough for the 10" lathes. And norman's right, the rigidity is an issue with the 2 bolt tool post (4 bolts would be better – there's a mod for that). So a bigger tool holder wouldn't help. Height would also be a problem because even with my AXA tool holders I have to bottom them out to use a 1/2" tool. And some already don't go low enough for .500 tooling (they need .02 ground off the bottom to sit low enough). I think you'd just have trouble with the larger tooling.

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January 12, 2012
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Thanks guys. I wondered about that since I have taken a skim cut off the bottom of my .5 bits to get the to be centered on the work. Tell me more about the 4 bolt mod.

Bob

January 15, 2012
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I don't have any info on it because I haven't done it myself. I also tried to google it and I'm having trouble finding it. Perhaps it wasn't a G0602 that I saw with this fix, but another similar lathe? I can't remember. If anyone else can find the link(s) please share them.

But basically the tool post assembly is held down with two bolts. The ones you loosen to adjust the angle of your cross slide. The idea is to improve this by using 4 bolts instead of 2 – thus adding to the tool post/cross slide rigidity. You have to make a larger plate (bored out to the same diameter as the original clamping ring that you're replacing).

The only bummer is you actually have to drill and tap the cast iron cross slide saddle. It's not that drilling or tapping cast iron is hard, I'm just always reluctant to add holes to my machinery. I like to keep things original. But I doubt the G0602 will ever be a collectors item, so I'm not sure what I'm worried about.

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January 28, 2012
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Tyler, that post was about the 9x20 lathe. If I recall it was specifically the Jet 9x20. My G0602 with the AXA 100  piston type

QCTP is rigid. I believe I saw this post on Home shop machinist.In any case ,if you are satisfied with the rigidity and finish on your turnings,I would not modify it.

mike

 

January 28, 2012
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I have a fair amount of flex in my cross slide, even with all the gibs properly tightened. It's lessened a lot if I limit the amount of tool overhang, but I'd guess the tip of the tool flexes downward 0.005 or so during heavy cuts. That's why I always take light "spring passes" once I get close to the final size. 

I'd like to add to the rigidity of my setup, but I'm hesitant to modify (drill/tap holes) my lathe. So I'll probably just continue to live with the flex. I can still get excellent results (to within .001 or better of desired size) by being patient. It's when I'm in a hurry that flex seems to become a problem. 

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January 29, 2012
10:49 AM
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With all of the advantages of a QCTP I have decided it is time for me to acquire one. Unfortunately I have a lathe that is a bit obscure. The discontinued model (by Grizzly) is a G9729.  Does any one know what size of unit I should looking for? I have emailed Grizzly but they really have not said "buy this one" yet. Just that they will transfer to a technical representative.

 

Thank you,

 

Kenny

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