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ProjectsInMetal Podcast - Questions and Topics needed!
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June 13, 2011
11:33 AM
Jerry
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Mayhem said:

Thanks Origin,

Essentially what I was curious about was why choose one grade of mild steel over another in a quick and dirty way.  For example, if you could only keep one type of metal on stock, what would you choose and why.  Obviously this is Dependant upon the job but my curiosity was about the average jobs/projects that we do. 

I often see people point to lists of scrap yard metal which is OK if I want to make some springs for a tractor but not so good if I want to take a lump of metal and do something with it.

Thanks for the link, that is helpful.

Cheers,

Mayhem

My stock Mild Steel to keep for machining purposes is EN1A, it's the most machinable, a dream to work with. 'Bright Mild Steel' is a good second best, but will be a bit grabby when being machined if it's not EN1A, and it can vary as it's a bit of a loose term.

 

June 15, 2011
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Similarly I like 1144 or 12L14 for anything that I can get it for.  Machines well, is quite strong, takes a nice finish and holds up well even without heat treatment.  If that's available in the size I need it's generally what I use.  I keep several sizes of that around.  Bad thing is I can't get it in anything but rounds so its harder to use for mill projects.

August 14, 2011
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Looks like the equivalent to EN1A in the North American system (seriously, can't we just adopt one standard?) is 1113.   I'll have to give it a go next time I'm buying stuff that doesn't come out of the off cuts bins.  Personally, I like the 12L14 (although I worry from time to time about the lead content), but I do seem to use a lot of 1018; probably just because it's commonly stocked locally.

 

-Chris

August 14, 2011
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The lead content is under half a percent so as long as you don't make cook wear out of it you shouldn't have any problems, witch by the way should be made from stainless. Another thing to consider is lead crystal, some people swear that it is not at all dangerous and it probably is made with a higher lead content, either way it is still safer then 360 brass.         

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January 26, 2012
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I'd like to hear a discussion on using a lathe for milling or a drill press for milling. There are lots of people out there doing this (myself included). I don't have the $ or the space to own a mill at the moment, and have to find creative ways of carrying out milling operations on my modified drill press, my 10"  lathe, or with hand tools. Any tips that would apply to people in a similar situation as myself would be much appreciated.

 

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Anderson

January 26, 2012
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Hi Anderson.  I'm a newbie to metal working but I needed to cut keyways is some axleshafts.  My 8x12 was used to mill the keyways with excellent results.  I also expirimented milling on my drill press but it was not rigid enough – too much chatter and vibration.  The 8x12 is very rigid and makes milling cuts like butter on 1144 stressproof.  Hope this helps.

Regards, Al

January 27, 2012
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Hi Andrsn, welcome to the site!

You bring up a good question – one that we will indeed explore if we ever re-launch the podcasts (they are on hold for now). 

Light milling can be done on a drill press, but generally it's better to use a mill. Rigidity is an issue, round columns are another issue, but perhaps the biggest issue is the way a drill chuck is set up. The taper on a drill chuck is very short and can't handle a lot of lateral force. So if you start to try to mill with one it's possible for the chuck to come loose, damaging the drill press, the part, and possibly even the operator. None of which is a good thing. 

But you're right, a lot of people (including me) try it, and many are successful. But if you're going to be doing a lot of milling, or precise milling, you'd do well to invest in a square column mill. Even a used, worn out mill would probably give you better, more accurate, and safer results than a drill press. 

Just my two cents. But good question. It's one I asked when I first started out … after having poor results using my drill press as a mill. Laugh

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