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thoughts on building a cam lock for the tail stock on G0602
March 24, 2011
4:05 PM
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heres a design idea for a cam lock tail stock

March 24, 2011
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Looks good, your google sketch up skills far surpass mine :P.

I think I'd rather have the handle coming out of the side of the tailstock though

 

That said. There is no reason why this shouldn't work…

Good luck :P

Stand back.
March 24, 2011
4:29 PM
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Blame,

Nice design and great sketch.

I'm with Gareth on this one though.  I'm used to having the camlock at the back of the tailstock.  This is a completely different setup, but this is what Steve Bedair did on his 9x20 tailstock camlock.

March 24, 2011
5:14 PM
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It's a way of using the casting style some tailstock's have to good advantage, the two webs lend themselves to supporting the cam shaft. I've seen the setup around so there's support for the method out there. I think it would be fine in operation, in fact ergonomically speaking it's possibly superior to the rear lever as the action is a direct push and pull one, where the side to side style of regular ones is less of a natural action.

March 24, 2011
5:53 PM
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errr it didnt post my last post

 

anyway i dont really like steves design its doesnt support the cam action. i dont have a preference where the handle is  located but rather the ability to apply force on the locking plate. i own 3 PSI 10 x 14 wood lathes that use that syle of cam action and dont care for them. using the webs from the casting to support the cam shaft gives you better ability to apply pressure on the bottom plate

problem i have is machining the tail stock i don't have a mill but i do have a buddy in town that does. 

 

the steel master SM-1022A lathes come factory with that style of cam lock  there sold in Australia they also have the reverse gears and power cross feed from the factory its basically the G0602 lathe but at 1800 US

 

Blame

March 24, 2011
11:51 PM
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Blame,

I see what you mean now by the casting webs supporting the forces from the cam action.  Ok, how about keeping the web supported part at the cam, but relocate the handle to the back?

OOOOH, G0602 reverse gears and power crossfeed!!  I wonder what the cost would be to buy these "accessories".  Or even just get a photo so we could do some reverse engineering.

Edit:  The Steelmaster SM-1022A does look like a near clone.  Some small interesting differences is that the Steelmaster has a smaller spindle bore at 21 mm, which is 0.827", and has a MT#2 tailstock.  The G0602 has a 1" spindle bore and a MT#3 tailstock.  All the other specs look identical once converted from metric.

Edit: Corrected "G0606" to G0602"

March 25, 2011
11:05 AM
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radial type cam action

 

March 25, 2011
11:45 AM
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Blame,

That's not quite what I envisioned.  But it certainly looks like a simpler design, plus you don't have the odd angle needed to miss the tailstock wheel.

Will having the handle in front interfere with the crossfeed/compound in any way.  I would guess not, but I've been wrong before.

March 25, 2011
12:42 PM
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I was just thinking of radial cam as an alliterative, there is also a kit for the c6 from LMS. It's not designed for the G0606 but the c6 is vary similar in size, so I see little difficulty modifying it. 

Titaniumboy,

I don't know of any power feed kits for the G0606, but believe that it is much more complicated then you think. There is seven additional spur gears pulse one on the cross slide, and a worm screw and gear, not to mention the clutch teeth. even if you buy or make these gears, installing these to a 10'' lathe would be a challenge considering the apron way not have a big enough void to accommodate it, also you will need to have a key way on the lead screw which would compromise the half nut function or add another beam. So my suggestion is to work with your lathe for a little wile longer then buy a 12'',13-1/2" or 14''  lathe.                     

 

         

The best laid schemes on mill and lathe, Go often askew, -Bobby Burns, If he was a machinist.  
March 25, 2011
3:25 PM
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Alexander,

You're correct, of course.  The powered crossfeed mechanism looks like it would be a nightmare to fab up.  Still, it would be great if the Steelmaster powered crossfeed was a direct fit for the G0602.

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