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12:04 AM
July 23, 2010
OfflineHey, all. I've finally crawled away from CAD with a set of plans for new blade guides for my 4x6 bandsaw. I've never been terribly happy with the poor fit & finish of the stock guides, so I've finally embarked on a whole new set. I'll post pics as I go, and I'll post the plans when I'm done (I want to make sure that they actually will work, first!). Oh yeah, since I buggered up the original blade guides trying to fix them (they were too far gone to begin with, I'm afraid…), I'm having to hacksaw the 1-1/2" x 3/4" CRS bar the old fashioned way ;)
-Chris
12:24 AM
October 20, 2011
Offline12:39 AM
July 23, 2010
OfflineI finished the first part tonight (only 7 more to go…). I'll upload some pics of the actual piece, but for now, here's a jpg of the CAD drawing:
I'll need to make two of these, and they make up the rear part of the block that actually holds the blade guides. I'm making the blade guide blocks out of two pieces since I'm not casting them, and that will cut down seriously on the waste (and on my arm, since I am having to hacksaw everything by hand; this is a bandsaw rebuild, remember?)
-Chris
4:22 PM
July 23, 2010
OfflineOkay. I now have some machining to show for my efforts. I've made both copies of the piece that I submitted the plans for in an earlier post. I'm also done cutting all of the bar stock down to the lengths needed to make the 8 parts that will go into the new blade guides – cut by hand with a hacksaw. Phew! I've thought to myself more than once "A bandsaw really would make this job a lot easier!"
To give you an insight into my plan of attack, here are the blanks for the blade guides laid out as they will go together to form the new guides. I've also got one of the original guides shown behind them to help make it more clear. Unlike the original guides, which are made from castings, the parts of the guides that actually hold the bearings in my new version will be made from two pieces of bar stock each.
The parts that I've made so far are the rear parts of the bearing blocks, and these are notched to accept the front, horizontal parts (the ones that actually will hold the bearings). From a milling standpoint, the parts that I've made are the most complex, I think, but the front, bearing-holding parts will require precise drilling and reaming. Here's a photo of the two completed parts plus the original bearing holder for comparison. The two parts of each bearing block will screw together with four M2.5 machine screws. The holes for the screws are pretty close to the edges of the notch for the front piece (actually 2.5mm from the top & bottom edges), but this was necessary so that the screws wouldn't foul the horizontal bearing's axle in each piece. I have yet to countersink the holes for these screws on the rears of these blocks, which will be necessary so that the screw heads don't foul the block that these in turn adjust on. In the current design, I am have countersinks, but I might just mill a groove and use capscrews. I can at least try countersinking first and groove as an afterthought if I want. I suspect that I will need to make a small countersink of precisely the right diameter to get close enough to the shoulder. I have some 12L14 hex stock that will do the trick, since it machines nicely and can be hardened, too.
Finally, if you look at the left side of the rightmost piece, you can
just barely make out a pair of holes. Each block as four such holes
that will be tapped for M3 set screws, which will be used to ease the
adjustment of the blocks' twist, allowing more precise blade alignment
(I hope!).
I'm hoping to get the bearing blocks finished in the next week or so, as I don't own any reamers, so I'd like to use the shop at work for that operation before it closes down for the holidays.
More to come, and, as always, comments and suggestions are welcome!
-Chris
7:03 PM
July 23, 2010
OfflineHey all. I've made some more progress on my bandsaw blade guides, finishing what I think is the most complex of the 8 pieces. This piece is the front half (the half that actually holds the three bearings) of the lower blade guide. This is the one that a table would bolt to when you want to use the saw as a vertical bandsaw, and at the end of the day, it was the crappy condition of this part of the stock blade guides that lead me to start this project! Of course, it isn't actually that complex, but the order of operations is important.
Here is the piece viewed from the rear and top. As far as order of operations, I marked out for the two holes for the side bearings, as well as for a hole to mark the end of the slot. These were then drilled. Next, to save on milling cutters, I used a hacksaw to rough out the two rabbets in the sides that form the T-shape. Next, I used the mill to finish the rabbets to their final sizes. The hole for the horizontal bearing shaft (that the back of the blade runs on) was then marked and drilled, as well as the two holes in the front for the table to bolt to. Finally, I used a hacksaw to rough out the slot that this bearing runs in, and then cleaned it up in the mill.
And here it is from the front, with the upright piece positioned behind it. The corresponding block for the top blade guide is pretty much the same, except that it is a little narrower (55mm instead of 65mm), and it doesn't have the tapped, countersunk holes in its front. I expect to have it done this week, as well as start on the blocks that these will bear on, and then finally the horizontal support bars.
Finally, here are the two parts aligned with each other as they will appear when assembled, with the original (cast iron) blade guide next to them, oriented in the same way.
The only thing left to do is to drill the four small holes in the rear of the T-shaped piece and tap them so that the two parts can be assembled together. My original plan was to use M2.5 screws (I don't want to mix and match metric and SAE parts, and other screws that are used in the parts from the original guides are metric), but it turns out that I don't have an M2.5 tap :(. I might opt for the slightly larger M3, but the heads of the machine screws will be a little two wide in diameter. I could file these down (they are going to be Loctited in anyways), but I haven't made up my mind yet. I suspect that I'll end up going with the M3s in the end.
11:46 AM
February 10, 2011
OfflineLooks neat so far.
With your M3 screws, by using cap heads (Allen bolts), the OD of the head can be turned down to slim them whilst keeping reasonable strength, I've done this many times, would that overcome your space problem? To hold them just mount a small piece of ally and drill and tap to suit, screw the screws in and machine down as required. To be honest, before now I've just held them in a drill and worked them down with files and emery cloth at a push.
12:15 PM
July 23, 2010
OfflineHi, Jerry. I had considered cap screws/bolts, too, but I had not considered turning them down. That's a really good idea that I hadn't considered! I might modify it slightly, though, and stick to flat head screws, but turn them down. The angled surface of the countersunk side would give a greater bearing surface. Then, I could use some 12L14 hex rod that I have laying around to make a simple spoon-drill-style countersink that was the same diameter as the turned down screw heads. The countersink might not last long, but I think that it would last long enough to counter sink the 8 holes that I need to for this project!
-Chris
10:22 PM
July 23, 2010
OfflineWell, I haven't had much time until this weekend to make a dent in this project. I'm happy to say that most of the machining is now complete. I just need to drill a few small holes and do some tapping, and then mount the bearings in the new guides. Here are the guides laid out in their current state:
The horizontal support bars actually will be angled, just like in the original guides (if you look closely, you can see the angled holes in the rear of one of the pieces on the right (lower) blade guide. More pics to come…
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