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my mill and shaper
November 12, 2010
10:56 AM
norman
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I made all of the patterns and did all of the casting plans were from David Gingery books " Build your own metal working shop from scrap

November 12, 2010
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JohnLawson
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Great looking machine tools, Norman!

November 12, 2010
9:17 PM
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Thanks  for the kind words on the mill and shaper they were fun to make and I'm using them on my latest project.

I did  a little practice cutting of gears to night ,making the cutting tooth for the mill to try and cut a couple of gears to repair the lathe

I got the tooth pretty close, now I'llhave to cast some blanks and make a fixture to hold the blanks while I cut them. The dividing fixture I want to make will have to wait for a while while I  get the lathe back up and running.

To make the lathe gears I'll make a shaft to mount the gear blank on and use the damaged gear as an index fixture to get each space on the blank. I hope it will work.

Norman

November 14, 2010
6:25 PM
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Excellent Norman! I own the Gingery series but I haven't made any of his machines. It's pretty amazing to me that Gingery (and now you) could simply build these machines from scratch. I've read the books so I kinda understand the process, but I still think it's a pretty amazing feat!

Also, I fixed your first post so it doesn't say "image removed by user" anymore. Sorry, sometimes the forum software picks fights with the most unsuspecting members. 

Anyway, thank you for sharing pictures of your shaper and mill. I know others have made them, but this is the first time I've ever seen pictures of any complete machines other than the ones in the Gingery books. 

Will you be making a lathe as well?

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November 15, 2010
9:15 AM
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Tyler

thanks for fixing my screw up on posting.

I won't be making the gingery lathe. I have 3 lathes one very small sears in the storage shed One I'm fixing and the new Grizzly. I'm running out of space in the shop. I got to figure out a way to make a tumbler gear reverse for the Grizz. I miss not being able to machine left and rigiht.

Did you notice that the first gear off of the spindle is plastic on the G0602 lathe. Probably a safety feature in case you crash the lathe, the plactic gear will take the beating instead of the gear train. I think that gear might work as is but I'm not sure for reversing, plus those gears are cut fifferent than all the rest.

I do use the mill and shaper they were  not just a project for display but are working tools for the shop. Each took about 3 months to build from start to finish.

Norman

November 15, 2010
10:42 AM
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Yep, I've seen the plastic gears, and I think you're right. They are probably meant to be the weak point. However, I've stalled my spindle before (rookie mistakes with speed/feed rates) and the belt slipped – no damage to the lathe. But I'd imagine at certain speeds the gears would fail. I even thought about ordering a replacement set from Grizzly just in case, but I haven't done it yet. 

I'd like to see what you come up with regarding the tumbler gear. I know others have done it with similar sized lathes. I just haven't put any thought into doing it with the G0602.

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November 15, 2010
9:03 PM
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Tyler

If you know of a specific site where a guy did the G0602 I would like to be able to go see just what he did to make it work.

All the sites I've seen were for different lathes mostly the Harbor freight 9"x?"

The plastic gear would need to slide forward and in an arc but I may be wrong Probably would need to make it out of aluminum and then a smaller reverse gear added behind the plastic gear to inguage the main spindle.

I'm going to give a try I think!!???

I'm still making the gear for the sears lathe just about got the indexing fixture made. I'll try it out in the morning. I made the patterns 2 days ago cast the parts yesterday and been maching them since.

Norman

November 17, 2010
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I got it done! Made my first gear and now the sears lathe is back up and running. My fixture is crude and not precision made but it worked.

here's the finished gear ready to mount on the lathe's pulley. I priced a replacement pulley which has this gear machined on its back side price was over $300.00 more than I paid for the used lathe. Last time I checked I couldn't even buy the pulley/gear anymore so I had to try and make one.

this the cast blanks to make the gear and the gear cutting fixture I made 2 gear blanks just in case I messed up.

Start of making the gear cutting stand. I milled the aluminum bases on the Gingery mill. The aluminum bases are mounted on 1/4″x3″ cold rolled steel

boring one of the stands in the g0602 lathe using a 1/4″ home made boring bar

November 17, 2010
10:17 AM
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gear cutting stand mounted on the mill you can see the broke gear on the left side being used to as the index tool

first pass on cutting the blank. the blank is held to the mandrel with a set screw. the 2 1/4″ bolts hold the mandrel from moving while cutting. I make only one  pass on each tooth to the completed depth.

this is the gear being used to index the blank being cut . Its a down and dirty way to make a gear. the broke gear is also set screwed to the mandrel. When I get to the missing teeth I just reset the broke gear back to where it has teeth. My blue dye is a dry marker( purple in color).

Here is a way to make a gear if you have part of the old gear. If you make things and don't have a foundry its very easy to build a foundry and cast the parts you need.

November 17, 2010
6:05 PM
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Norman, those are some nice looking machines! What kind of tolerances can you hold on the mill? I'm thinking of making a small bench top type mill as a small project. I live in an apartment, so machining at home will be a big challenge. I was thinking of making a small plexiglass enclosure to contain (hopefully most of) the chips and dust. This will probably be a very long-term project, but I would like to produce something that can hold some fairly tight tolerances.

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