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Coaxial indicator
October 3, 2010
9:26 PM
Ironman
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I recently purchased a co-axial indicator, a Blake clone, that I am pleased with. For those who aren't up on these, this is a live center finding tool, similar to a edge finder, except it can also be used to find center on a centerpunch mark. It is used to find center on a bore or to read the outside to center on a shaft or cylinder held in the milling vise. There is nothing, well…almost, that this tool can't do, that can't be done with an Indicol in one fashion or another. The co-axial indicator is much faster to set up and the reading under power is a real bonus, instead of hand turning a spindle. Reading is easy as the dial always faces you.

To use it, you install a anti-rotation bar that you hold to keep the dial facing you and put the correct straight or curved feeler into the mounting hole. Adjust the mount til the feeler touches the bore. The mount is a friction adjusted part. Turn the machine once to insure the the feeler is sweeping the hole or cylinder completely. (in other words, eyeball it in to less than.25") Then turn on the mill as its lowest rpm. Then adjust the X and Y on the table to reduce the needle movement to as close to zero as you can.

I bought it from Fleabay and I was pleasantly surprised at the quality and finish. As I don't suffer from "buy American" principals, and the cost of a Blake is over $300, I expected to have a lower quality product for under $50, but I don't believe that is the case at all. There is almost no visible movement of the needle when rotating, which means no built in errors.

As Blake says on their site:

"The Blake Co-Ax indicator is a centering device. It requires a reading of both sides of the bore (or boss), in each axis, to arrive at center. Its sole function is to find center. It is never to be used as a measuring instrument.

You can not certify the Co-Ax on a surface plate. It must be put in the spindle of the machine in which it would normally be used and indicate a precision ring or plug. Then remove it and use a .0001" indicator to check that you are on center.

The Co-Ax indicator is made to be used under power. When checking the Co-Ax position with a test indicator the spindle should be rotated manually for both indicators due to the fact that spindle torque under power on some machines will give a different reading for center." -

In other words – The dial could be blank or have a picture of Bugs Bunny on it. You just want the needle to stop wiggling so much.Laugh

Starting with the wooden case, it's a keeper. Usually the wood cases of Chinese tools made in the Wun Rong Turn factory are falling apart, and the latches don't work…I wonder why they even bother. This case is very nice, it will last for years.

It has a complete set of feelers for inside and outside centering. The finish on the critical area that rotates against the non-rotating housing is mirror smooth. There was no excess lubrication or cosmoline  present, and I believe lubricating this tool with a very light oil is all that is needed. Anything that collects dust could affect the reading

The indicator is held in the spindle with a 3/8" collet chuck. This size is even acceptable in a small table top machine. Here's what you get in the kit.

This is the co-ax unit ready to work.

Here the Co-ax indicator has indicated center on a 1/2" drilled hole at 250 rpm

October 3, 2010
9:36 PM
Tyler
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Another great product review! Thanks Ironman! I'll add this to the list of things I'm planning to add to the home page. 

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October 4, 2010
8:04 AM
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I've always used my indicol but this looks like a pretty sweet option, especially for production.  Thanks for the write-up.

You can walk with a wooden leg but you can't see with a glass eye. Always use Eye Protection!
October 4, 2010
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Thank, Ironman.  I've been considering one of these import coax indicators, but didn't know their quality.  I think that you've helped me make up my mind to get one.

-Chris, aka ironring1

October 5, 2010
11:08 AM
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I'll reluctantly second that motion. I've had mine for a number of years and it has performed reliably every time I've chucked it up. And, I'm about to go out into the shop and use it to locate a bored hole for enlargement.

I have an American made instrument, made in 1929, that is still performing perfectly, also, though it is for smaller bores.

Once you have used one of these instruments, you will not want to return to the flexible dial test indicator whose dial is not visible for a half turn and cannot be used under power.

October 7, 2010
12:42 PM
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And even worse for the Indicol, when you do something as stupid as turning it on without thinking.Embarassed I'm told the record flight is 25ft.

December 1, 2010
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How far is that in meters?

What is the record for a chuck key flung by stupidly turning on power with the key stcking in the chuck?

December 1, 2010
7:47 PM
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I believe thats 8 meters.

I understand the world record chuck key fling distance is classed as infinity…due to the contestant being unable to find the key again.

December 2, 2010
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I still remember being in my highschool's shop when some doorknob drill press was turned on with the chuck key in it.  If I recall correctly, it bounced off of two walls before landing in the middle of the shop floor.  Mr. Smith was unimpressed.  In the mechanical engineering shops at UBC, your hand is never supposed to leave the chuck key if it is in a chuck, and the shop supervisor has chuck-key-dar…  I have yet to have to dodge a key when working in there ;)

December 2, 2010
11:55 PM
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There are more accidents caused by ignoring safety regulations on a driill press than any other shop machine. Most prominent of these is not securing the work to be drilled and the drill bit breaking through, snatching and whirling or attempting to whirl the workpiece.

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