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Producing a large hole in thin sheet metal with a drill bit
August 6, 2011
8:16 PM
holmes_ca
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Sorry no pictures with this one,

 

When you want to use a large drill (1inch or bigger) in thin sheet metal, if you are not careful you will or may produce for better words, a square hole, just take an old or new piece of cloth or rag big enough to be able to fold it over two times then place it under the drill bit (with a pilot hole first drilled) and you should end up with a nice round hole, 

Of course before you start make sure you have glasses on and the sheet is clamped in some way and be careful, think safety,

 

…………Edmund……….

August 6, 2011
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Why a cloth, I have always used a plank of wood for supporting sheet metal and on occasion placed another piece on top. I fear that a cloth will get caught and spin possibly catching the part or fixtures and making them spin.  

The best laid schemes on mill and lathe, Go often askew, -Bobby Burns, If he was a machinist.  
August 6, 2011
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Alexander m,

 

    I' not going to get into an argument with you, you use wood, I use cloth,

Edmund,

August 7, 2011
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I'm with Alex on this one. It does make more sense to use wood, however if you were to compress the cloth enough it wouldn't spin.

There are better ways to drill through sheet metal though rather than using a drill bit, or hole cutters.

http://www.projectsinmetal.com…..le-cutter/

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August 7, 2011
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GarethBell

 

That's fine by me, its not written in gold, whichever works best for you, I have always used a small piece of rag you use wood, there are many ways to skin a cat,  

 

……….Edmund…………

August 7, 2011
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Yeah, obviously it works for you, I shall have to try it some day. What cloth do you use?

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August 7, 2011
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GarethBell,

 

      I have only used this op a few times, I'm familiar with most if not all the ways to produce a large hole in fact I have two home made tree panning tools, but I was shown this cloth thing by an old experienced toolmaker, and it works, I cut or tear any old kind of material big enough that when its folded in half twice, I've never tried 3 or 4 times I don't think it would matter how many times, as long as it is just a bit bigger than the drill dia being used, I think the principle of the whole thing is that the rag is drawn into the hole being produced and taking up space between the flutes but that is just my theory,

 

Alexander m, there shouldn't be any great chunks of cloth flying around, just a little bit bigger than the drill, I guess I could have explained better in my first post, that seems to be a common occurrence these days, myself included, sorry about that,

 

………..Edmund……… 

 


 


 

  

August 7, 2011
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Personally, I'm a fan of using step drills for sheet metal work; they do a fantastic job of making nice, neat holes.  Another nice trick is to get your sheet metal lined up with your backing of choice (wood, cloth, whatever), clamp it in place (I'm assuming a drill press here), and then clamp a piece of CRS or hardwood OVER the sheetmetal.  That will give a very clean hole, as the sheet can't flex up or down.  If you're using a really thin piece of sheet (let's say 30 gauge or thinner), you're best off using some sort of punch.

 

-Chris

August 7, 2011
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I'm still not a hundred percent clear about this method, in the photos below I have set up exactly what you have said. Here is a 1" 118° drill (when you just say "drill" this is what I assume)  in my drill press, with a small square of cloth that has ben folded twice in half, to drill a hole into 1/32 sheet brass. Im not even going to attempt this because the hole in my table is only 5/8  and the bit will start to drill the table before it would drill the brass to a full 1". I'm defiantly missing something here maybe your drill press has a 1" hole in the table or you have some kind of a riser on either side. I can see how there is something to this with the cloth occupying the void in the flutes and you claim that this is effective, however I'm at loss of how one would proceed. In the last photo I have set up the traditional method having a piece of 3/4 plywood thick enough that the drill can go beyond the sheet metal and still not exit the other side, it's safe and effective.          

 

The best laid schemes on mill and lathe, Go often askew, -Bobby Burns, If he was a machinist.  
August 7, 2011
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Hello Chris, 

 

       yes that's another good one, never used one myself but I can see it would come in very handy, but you've just jogged my memory, I have used countersinks to give me a nice hole of standard size, and for very thin shim I have a punch block 1/8 up to 5/8, that's a very handy tool,

 

…………Edmund……….

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