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Setting cutter bits
July 29, 2011
7:57 AM
Tenn
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comeausj said:

Tenn,

That's exactly what I was trying to describe. It seems to work pretty well. I definetly have way better cuts now then when I first tryed cutting. That make sense with the boring bars too. Unfortunately I broke one of my boring bars yesterday. (Trying to figure out how to use it) That's alright though, I knew I would probably break some tools when I first started.

I can relate to broken bits I think that's very normal in our learning curve.Confused

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August 30, 2011
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Some light lathes will bore a through hole in a workpiece with a slight bell mouth tape; my 12" Atlas does.

Turning the workpiece end for end in the chuck, using the largest boring bar that will clear the hole for the final cuts and using a spoon bit often result in a parallel bore…with the Atlas, anyway.

By the same token, it pays to buy the best lathe chuck you can find, keep it clean and properly lubed and keep your boring tool points honed between cuts.

If you don't have an accurate 3 jaw, you can use a 4 jaw independent chuck dialed in for the end for end operation.

August 30, 2011
8:38 PM
Tenn
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My turn to ask the dumb question; What's a spoon bit ?? Confused

I've never heard that term yet, do you have a picture of one ?? Embarassed

 

~Chris

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September 3, 2011
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Jerry, your post #7 is a fantastic one!

I have learned more in this post that in what I have been garnering on the web last month!

Still no machines from QMT and Matt but I know they are just around the corner now…. So eager to start!

 

Luc

December 16, 2011
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Tenn said:

My turn to ask the dumb question; What's a spoon bit ?? Confused

I've never heard that term yet, do you have a picture of one ?? Embarassed

 

~Chris

Sorry to dredge up an old post, but perhaps John meant a "D-Bid reamer"?

 

or a "toolmakers reamer" (also called an angled d-bit reamer)?

My understanding, however, is they are used to ream, not bore. So maybe there is a spoon bit that I've never seen? There is in woodworking. 

The first image is from a nice writeup on drilling and reaming from Chris Heapy. Check it out if you have a chance.

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December 17, 2011
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A spoon bit looks somewhat like a workturner's gouge.  So, it's like a D-bit, but more like a C-bit (hence the "spoon" part of the name).  The bit has a rounded front that bores the hole, and its vertical flutes clean the hole's sides.  They cut regardless of the direction that you rotate them, making them practical for old reciprocating drills like bow-drills.  They are really old-school, predating twist drills.

December 18, 2011
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Yea, I've seen a spoon bit in woodworking (in fact, they used one on Mythbusters to bore out a wooden cannon) but I didn't know that they existed for metal as well.

Here's a clip of the mythbusters building the wooden cannon (using the spoon bit starts at 0:25). 

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December 20, 2011
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I bought one of those enormous collections of stones for my Foredom flexible shaft tool to suppliment the collection of burrs that I bought with it.

When you have finished cutting and honing a D bit, you can convert it to a spoon bit by using a tapered stone to hollow it out. You will get very proficient at bringing the cut right up to the edges after a few tries, increasing cutting edge rake. In effect, this converts a reaming tool into a cutting tool…from enlarging a hole to initiating and self-reaming one. (WOW!)

Older literature (circa 1910's) shows these cutters in operation.

Lindsay's book "Tool Making 1905" shows a tangential tool holder identical to the one Tyler obtained recently. These were also illustrated in early 1900's editions of the Model Engineer. Sometimes, the older tooling is every bit as efficient as the latest.

 

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