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Shop Tip: How to Make A Sacrificial Center
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12:21 PM
May 18, 2010


Tyler

Seattle, WA

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Post edited 12:23 PM – May 18, 2010 by Tyler


Sometimes my laziness tries to get in the way of doing things properly. For instance, there have been numerous times where the proper way of approaching a setup would be to turn the piece between centers. For me that means removing my 3 jaw chuck so that I can fit a MT#4 dead center in my spindle.

I don't know why, but I'll spend 20 minutes trying to figure out an alternative setup rather than spending 5 minutes removing my 3 jaw chuck.

Then one day at GEARS in Portland someone asked me why I just don't turn a sacrificial center and use that in my 3 jaw. Great idea!

Turning Between Centers using a Sacrificial Center in a 3 Jaw Chuck

The principle behind a sacrificial center is simple. It's a center that can be re-chucked and re-turned to ensure that it's perfectly centered. Whenever you need to turn between centers you simply chuck the sacrificial center in your 3 jaw chuck, set your compound at 30
[Image Error: Unable to validate image details]° (60° included), and shave off a few thousandths to ensure that it's turning concentric.

The Finished Sacrificial Center

It's simple to build, but since this site is geared toward absolute beginners I'll include pictures and directions below. The next time you need to turn something between centers, you'll think twice before removing that chuck!

The Process:

First, find a piece of scrap steel an inch or so in diameter. Turn a shank down to about a half inch in diameter and at least an inch long.

Turning the Shank of a Sacrificial Center

Part off the piece leaving 2 to 3 inches of length on the larger diameter. The longer you make this portion, the more sacrificial cuts you'll get out of it before you need to make a new center. Flip and re-chuck the parted-off piece.

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Set your compound at 30
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Set your compound at 30° (60° included)

You're done once your center has a nice point to it.

The Finished Sacrificial Center

Whenever you need to turn something between centers, re-chuck your sacrificial center, set your compound at 30
[Image Error: Unable to validate image details]° (60° included), and remove a few thousandths to ensure that the center is perfectly concentric along the axis of rotation. That's it!


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9:07 AM
December 26, 2010


tomwalter

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Place a mark with your automatic center punch next to jaw #1.   Align the punch mark next to the jaw, next time you use the sacrificial center and it should be be pretty close.

9:02 PM
December 27, 2010


Tyler

Seattle, WA

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Ah, good tip! That will get you very close. Probably plenty close enough for 98% of your projects, and for that other 2% you can always re-turn the sacrificial center.

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9:46 PM
December 27, 2010


i44troll

Randlett, Oklahoma

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That's a great idea! My problem comes AFTER the job is done…..misplacing the center…. thus spending that time you just saved (by NOT pulling your chuck) looking for your center!

 

Chris

If you think that you know everything, your already wrong about something

9:56 AM
December 28, 2010


Tyler

Seattle, WA

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Post edited 10:03 AM – December 28, 2010 by Tyler


I haven't had that issue with my sacrificial center. I keep it with all my other live centers and tailstock tooling. I'm more of a where-the-hell-did-I-put-that-hex-key kinda guy.

Or car keys for that matter.

Actually … no, you're right. I'm surprised I haven't lost it! Laugh

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