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Sunnen Honing Machine
August 20, 2011
10:10 PM
Tyler
Seattle, WA
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That would be great Sammy, thank you for helping out!

John, thanks for the reminder. I'll bring a couple of clean 5 gal buckets with lids so I can sump the oil into them for the move. 

I got invited on a last-minute trip to Astoria for a fishing trip so this weekend is shot. And next weekend I'm in Idaho visiting family. So it will need to wait two weeks. John, if this doesn't work for you please let me know and I'll try to make other arrangements. 

NOTE: I work full time and I'm attending college full time as well. So if it takes me a few days to respond, please don't take it personally. If it's urgent please send me a Private Message.
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August 21, 2011
7:37 AM
norman
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Like most things. We want PHOTO'S so we can drool on the keyboard wishing we had that machine.

Got Pictures?

August 23, 2011
9:48 PM
holmes_ca
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Alexander m said:

That is indeed a great machine and at real bargain, but I don't think that it is the right bargain. I'm sorry to say this but it seams to be a bite of a waist to buy a machine with the intent of only using it occasionally. There are ways to get around this, if all your ding is to make small engines then a large reamer may be sufficient alternatively you could use a tool post grinder with a small wheel about 3/4 the hole size to preform an internal surface grind in steel. $3500 is about the price of my lathe with some of the tooling and I use it almost none stop, but for the rare operations it may be more practical to give it to a professional machine shop.

Alexander

 

        Just a bit of trivia, do a search for Flex-Hone, I am in the process of building Mr E.T.Westbury's Sealion 4 cylinder gas engine, it has bores of .875 I have finished them off with the product mentioned, perfect, its a well known product in the Vehicle Mechanics Profession, it comes in infinite sizes apparently

 

………Edmund……… 

August 24, 2011
10:44 AM
JohnLawson
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Tyler, Look up the capacity of the oil reservioir; I think it holds 30 gallons. Also, you will need a pump, since the one I have is not working and I have no hoses that fit. OPtherwise, you are looking at a four hour job by hand.

August 29, 2011
9:38 PM
JohnLawson
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If you pause and relect carefully, you realize that a negative attitude toward new machine tools would have kept us in the dark ages (for it was the lathe that took us out of the dark ages)  with a despotic religious cult dictating what we could or could not make and dominating every aspect of our lives. My apologies if I have offended any cult member or machinist with a retro outlook on our craft. And so, I call the Craft from refreshment to labor. Harken ye to the following:

A screw cutting lathe brought us to light and is directly responsible for providing us with our current way of life. Even the finest lathe available will not perform beyond certain peramiters.

A tool post grinder increases the accuracy possible when using the average home sshop lathe. A toolpost grinder, used with the compound set at 82 degrees is capable of removing miniscule amounts of metal from a workpiece at each pass. The downside is that dry grinding produces considerable amounts of heat, resulting in rapid wear of the cutting stone (often resulting in a very slight taper of the workpiece) and also producing cconsiderable heat, which in turn expands the workpece ever so sllightly. One must allow it to cool to room temp. before miking.

An industrial honing machine, on the other hand, is, in effect, a slow speed wet grinder the use of which does not result in metal expansion of the workpiece. There is even a handy faucet to wash off the piece before miking, to prevent making a false reading. Honing can be done internally or externally on a workpiece.

The end result is a piece part that is accurate (to millionths of an inch) that has a surface regularity of 3-5 micro inches on steel bar stock usually found in amateur shops.

Not even the finest Hardinge lathe can do that, gents.

Is it worth the cost? That, gentlemen, is dependent, like so many other things in life, on the depth of your pockets and the contents of your swag bag.

Those not able to afford a honing machine may make use of shpop made adjustable laps to attain similar results with considerably mpore elbow grease…but, the end result is identical. Poor people have poor ways. I usd lead and copper laps for decades before I could afford a honing machine. Sadly, however, about a month after I obtained the Sunnen, my need for making bullet swaging dies to very tight tolerances faded to black, as some commercial bullet makers had also gotten the message and were producing everything I needed at a modest cost. (Sigh.)

September 1, 2011
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I just watched a guy at an auction bid $240 and get a Sunnen cylinder boring and honing centre. Complete machine was about 3x4ft square. He told me he bought it for the rotophase that powered it. Only good for 3 hp….

I just looked at him and said,"Do you realise how easy it is to build a rotaphase out of an old 3 phase motor and a 1/4 horse washing machine motor?"

"No!"

"Just do a Google search" I saidLaughLaugh

 

I have a Sunnen Pin Honing machine with stones for sale if anyone is interested. These were used to fit kingpins and such back in the days the cars used them.

September 2, 2011
8:00 AM
JohnLawson
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When Pharoah's army was gaining on me, I asked "De Lawd" to send me a Sunnen Indistrial Hone to part the waters of Hoodlum Lake, but he just shook his head and dropped a hammer and chisel on me. "Waid a few thousand years." was all He said.

I have no doubt that some lucky gink was able to buy something efl at an action, but I always end up paying too much. If I really, really need the item, and I can't find one anywhere else, I will play the Ebay game, bt I hate having to outbid everyone in the Cosmos.

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