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Single Point Threading: Set Compound at 29.5° or 31°?

This is one of those concepts that I thought I had a handle on until I dug a bit deeper.

I was taught to set the compound (or top slide for those of you across the pond) to 29.5° when cutting a 60° thread. My understanding was that this would allow for you to advance the threading tool at a 29.5° angle into the workpiece so that only the leftmost side of the threading tool would remove chips.

Image from WoodworkForums.com

Recently I learned (like so many other machining operations) that the method I was taught wasn’t the only method out there. It turns out that there are people out there that not only don’t use this method, they’ve never even heard of it! That lead to a forum post that I encouraged Jerry to write about the topic. The purpose was to discuss the method in greater detail and gain some clarity along the way.

Then a forum member mentioned that if the intent was to give relief to the back side of the threading tool, the angle needed to be 30.5° and not 29.5°. This made me curious and I proceeded to draw the concept up in Sketchup to either confirm or deny that 29.5° was the proper angle.

It turns out that it does seem that 30.5° might make more sense (if you’re truly trying to prevent the back side of the threading tool from cutting). Setting the tool at 29.5° actually causes the right side of the tool to remove material (albiet a lot less material than the left). While setting the tool to 30.5° looks as though it would result in the desired relief on the right hand side of the tool.

The image below shows (exaggerated in red) the amount of material that would be removed if you were to set the compound to 29.5° degrees (but it’s actually set to 25° to exaggerate the concept for clarity).

29.5° (exaggerated for clarity)

While this image shows how the right hand side of the tool would have clearance if you set the compound to 30.5° (again, exaggerated for clarity by setting the angle to 35°).

30.5° (exaggerated for clarity)

So what do you think? How were you taught?

I put together a YouTube video that illustrates the concept and shows what I discovered when I drew things up in Sketchup. If you’re already familiar with the concept, skip ahead to 4:20 in the video, which is where I start talking about my Sketchup findings.

If you have experience with this method and can explain why my Sketchup results were counter intuitive, please feel free to leave a comment and enlighten me (and everyone else) via the forum topic connected to this post.

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About Tyler

Tyler is a hobby machinist and 3D printing aficionado. He teaches computer programming and web development at Highline near Seattle. Tyler founded Projects In Metal in 2008 because he was frustrated by the lack of free plans available for hobby machinists.

21 comments

  1. I remember threading years ago on my dad’s Logan.  I look at the Logan now with its additional box of gears and all the tools it came with and it brings back memories.  Come to think about it I remember the thread gauge.  I think I know where one is in my dad’s old box. 

    I remember always wanting to cut an Acme thread.  I don’t remember why.  It just looked nice.

    Most of my time in business I was working against time or dealing with fragmented bits of time. There were things I wanted to do that I sent off to expedite the job. Most of the time I was fixing or rebuilding old tools or working on business systems like network systems or point of sale systems.   

    With this Mill rebuild I am declaring myself free of fixing old tools.  If I want a new tool I am going to buy it new. 

    Jim